Comments on: The Temple and The Bridal Chamber http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/ Gnosticism, Forteana, fun and more from a modern Gnostic Minister. Formerly "Fantastic Planet." The opinions expressed hereon are solely those of the author, and do not represent the opinions of The Palm Tree Garden Gnostic Community. Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:31:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Br. Jay http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-131 Br. Jay Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:50:04 +0000 http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-131 Br. Jeremy, you have done it again! This is a fantastic piece that shows the beauty of Gnostic Christianity. I am going to read it again. Br. Jeremy, you have done it again! This is a fantastic piece that shows the beauty of Gnostic Christianity. I am going to read it again.

]]> By: Jonathan Cid http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-132 Jonathan Cid Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:39:11 +0000 http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-132 Bro., Amazing article! You're a natural writer. I especially liked when you summarized it all (very long article) by saying that God cannot be contained, but He is still present in the Temple. Beautiful article. Great work! Pax et Caritas, Jonathan Bro.,

Amazing article! You’re a natural writer. I especially liked when you summarized it all (very long article) by saying that God cannot be contained, but He is still present in the Temple.

Beautiful article. Great work!

Pax et Caritas,

Jonathan

]]> By: Francis Drake http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-133 Francis Drake Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:58:46 +0000 http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-133 Of all the stuff of yours I've read to date this really nails it, imho... I too will read it at least once again, slowly, carefully... p.s. This resonates with other readings I've encountered, more on that perhaps later. Of all the stuff of yours I’ve read to date this really nails it, imho… I too will read it at least once again, slowly, carefully…

p.s. This resonates with other readings I’ve encountered, more on that perhaps later.

]]> By: Jonathan Cid http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-134 Jonathan Cid Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:32:00 +0000 http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-134 I just remember that I was reading this verse the other day! What a "coincidence"... Was reading it again just now in fact... Talk about beauty: "18 responderunt ergo Iudaei et dixerunt ei quod signum ostendis nobis quia haec facis 19 respondit Iesus et dixit eis solvite templum hoc et in tribus diebus excitabo illud 20 dixerunt ergo Iudaei quadraginta et sex annis aedificatum est templum hoc et tu tribus diebus excitabis illud 21 ille autem dicebat de templo corporis sui 22 cum ergo resurrexisset a mortuis recordati sunt discipuli eius quia hoc dicebat et crediderunt scripturae et sermoni quem dixit Iesus " I just remember that I was reading this verse the other day! What a “coincidence”… Was reading it again just now in fact…

Talk about beauty:

“18 responderunt ergo Iudaei et dixerunt ei quod signum ostendis nobis quia haec facis 19 respondit Iesus et dixit eis solvite templum hoc et in tribus diebus excitabo illud 20 dixerunt ergo Iudaei quadraginta et sex annis aedificatum est templum hoc et tu tribus diebus excitabis illud

21 ille autem dicebat de templo corporis sui 22 cum ergo resurrexisset a mortuis recordati sunt discipuli eius quia hoc dicebat et crediderunt scripturae et sermoni quem dixit Iesus “

]]> By: Donald Donato http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-135 Donald Donato Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:16:08 +0000 http://www.palmtreegarden.org/fp/2007/07/19/the-temple-and-the-bridal-chamber/#comment-135 I bow to your thoughtful follow-up, and I embrace your elaborated version of the role of scripture. Two minor comments: (1.) One need not ascribe to Apostolic Succession to appreciate the scores of generations of Gnostics who have worked the path towards gnosis without NHL. Therefore, I would not go as far as to say that NHL is "above and beyond" everything else. The Tradition is still there whether or not you choose to value the actual lines of succession. (2.) You wisely demonstrate here that the exoteric v. esoteric Temple argument is a false dichotomy. I fully agree. For us now, I recognize the immense value of NHL to learn and share Gnostic truths. But I know from my own experience that without the Tradition and living teachers often our eyes do not read what is truly in them. +Mar Ioannes recently wrote: "As Gnostics we prize direct experience above all else. It is only through direct apprehension that the rich tapestry of myth and symbol with which we find our tradition blessed with, becomes clear and visible in its full scope." (Transit umbra, lux permanet, May 27, 2007). So, NHL "above and beyond" all else, no...taken together with...yes. Thanks for walking through this with me, I really appreciate your effort and knowledge. I bow to your thoughtful follow-up, and I embrace your elaborated version of the role of scripture. Two minor comments:

(1.) One need not ascribe to Apostolic Succession to appreciate the scores of generations of Gnostics who have worked the path towards gnosis without NHL. Therefore, I would not go as far as to say that NHL is “above and beyond” everything else. The Tradition is still there whether or not you choose to value the actual lines of succession.

(2.) You wisely demonstrate here that the exoteric v. esoteric Temple argument is a false dichotomy. I fully agree. For us now, I recognize the immense value of NHL to learn and share Gnostic truths. But I know from my own experience that without the Tradition and living teachers often our eyes do not read what is truly in them. +Mar Ioannes recently wrote: “As Gnostics we prize direct experience above all else. It is only through direct apprehension that the rich tapestry of myth and symbol with which we find our tradition blessed with, becomes clear and visible in its full scope.” (Transit umbra, lux permanet, May 27, 2007). So, NHL “above and beyond” all else, no…taken together with…yes.

Thanks for walking through this with me, I really appreciate your effort and knowledge.

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